Post by Steve King (Admin) on Jul 9, 2006 21:01:18 GMT -6
It is very sturdy and works out very well due to the span of the base. It doesn't have to do with the PVC width, but the base width. If you desire greater stability, then just increase the base. The base though listed in the plans on this forum works out just fine.
Many play top rung 3, middle 2, bottom 1, but then again some play vice versa. There are a few that even play the middle being 3, top 2 and bottom 1. The rules aren't set in stone, but if you check out the rules from the patented game www.LadderGolf.com, then I would say those are the closest "by the booK' rules out there.
As for the string length, most vary between 13-18" in between the balls. Use 3/16" nylon rope. The longer the string in between, the better chance that you'll get a double ringer (wrap around 2 rungs). This is impossible to do with the patented wooden ladder golf game due to their short strings, but you have a little more control it seems when the strings are shorter. So, length has its pros and cons. Hooe this helps!
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Apr 3, 2006 23:30:14 GMT -6
Most PVC assembled games are 10" to allow for a double ringer (wrapping around 2 rungs at the same time to accrue more points). If I recall correctly, you can't get a double ringer with the LadderGolf.com wooden set since they are set 13" apart and the ropes are shorter. To each their own. It's a personal choice.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Sept 8, 2005 11:34:27 GMT -6
Ohhh, the scoring pins are in the back of the ladder. Great! That sounds like a good set up. Thanks for the compliment on the board too. I hoped that it would assist people in building, playing, etc. the 3 popular tossing games (ladder golf, washers & cornhole) with Ladder Golf being the main theme of the board since it's the hottest game around right now. Believe it or not, this board gets over half of its traffic from Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota. This game seems to be hot like fire up north from me here in Missouri. It's catching on slowly here though. I think it'll be a few more years before it catches on U.S. wide though.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Sept 7, 2005 12:04:53 GMT -6
Sounds like a great idea! We'd love to see some pictures of your design. Question though, is it possible for the rope between the bolas could get hung up on the protruding golf tees, which inturn could not only possibly cause an error from landing on a specific rung, but also pull out the tee from the scoring position? I had recently devised a different (but somewhat similar) scoring procedure using O-rings, because I was afraid that the ropes would catch on anything protruding. See what I've done here:
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Aug 12, 2005 10:13:18 GMT -6
This is a very simple fix. Since you will have 2 ladders 30' apart, have each ladder have a left and a right side of notches with once washer each for those notches. Color the washer the same color as each of the bolas to distinguish which team is which. Anyway, if both ladders have the same set up of 2 sides of scoring (a left and a right), then all that one would have to do is move the washer on "BOTH" ends of the playing field when one scores. This would allow both teams to clearly see the current score without having to strain ones eyes.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Aug 11, 2005 21:37:38 GMT -6
Sounds like a good idea. It won't affect the normal play since it will be in the rear of the game. How do you plan on making the beads lock in place so they don't slide back out of the true scoring position? Where do you plan on finding beads that'll fit over PVC to slide? I know there are washers that have a large I.D. and this may work better, since you can knotch the PVC with grooves which will lock the washers in place by having the center I.D. hole set into a notch when slid over. Just my thoughts.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Aug 10, 2005 10:05:59 GMT -6
If you freeze a titleist ball that has a liquid filled center before drilling, then this will diffuse the danger. Only use liquid filled center balls if drilling "all of the way through" the ball. Otherwise, when the ball thaws out, the liquid center will cause mayhem with your hot glue holding in your rope. I personally didn't use a liquid filled center with my bolas. I drilled half way through, then heated up my 3/16" nylon rope end to harden it. I then set that aside for it to cool (harden). I put some on glue in the hold that I drilled and immediately set my hardened end of the rope into the hot glued hole. After it cooled and set, I sunk a very small flat head screw through my rope into the ball at an angle until it was flush with the ball. The rope encompassed the screw so that it wasn't seen. This added the extra security that the ball wouldn't fly off due to glue degradation.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Jul 29, 2005 9:47:45 GMT -6
Sure, sounds pretty simple to do. All that one would need to do is first, not make the base as the plans suggest, then, instead of making the lower 2 PVC vertical legs 10" each in length (see assembly plans above), one would make both of them 22 inches in length. Then, all that you have to do is make a pilot hole in the ground by using a metal rod (ie. horseshoe stake, rebar, etc.), broken broom stick, etc. and a hammer. Take the hammer and hit the rod/stick into the ground to about a 12" depth of a pilot hole. Then, all that you need to do is set your two 22" ladder legs into the ground first (sticking out 10"), then set the rest of your ladder on top of those 2 legs.
Now, one could modify some the 10" vertical bottom legs of the original ladder plans (without the base) by putting some sort of stake into them and sticking the stake into the ground, but the downfall of that my be just that, a downfall. The bottom line is that the legs need to be anchored, be it 12" + into the ground or by the base construction that the plans above show. Anything less would eventually topple the laddle when the bolas hit it multiple times. Sometimes taking short cuts can lead to other problems.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Feb 18, 2008 20:09:31 GMT -6
This was recenlty submitted to me via email by a fellow visitor:
"My wife and I got tired of forgetting our scores from round to round and had discussed getting or making a scoring card like the one you advertise on TossingGames.com and then I hit on a great idea – hand tally counters – the little things you hold in your hand and click a thumb button which rotates a digital odometer-like counter (see below picture). They cost about six bucks. What you do is use a string (lanyard) to hang them around your neck and then you carry your score with you, we find them the perfect solution. ------------ M. Stuart Waller (Houston, TX)"
Well Stuart, that is DEFINITELY a great idea! Below is a link if anyone wants to get in on the new scorekeeping concept, and once again, thanks Stuart for sending in your idea!
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Aug 19, 2007 19:40:45 GMT -6
Though Ladder Golf has a patent on this game and makes the wooden variety, many people make and sell the PVC versions to sell on Ebay, festivals and online elsewhere. I've seen this game sold at our annual Apple Butter Fesitival here in my area by various vendors. With this said, I can almost guarantee you that there wouldn't be any lawsuit involved to do what you are asking. Have fun!
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Jul 16, 2007 22:47:22 GMT -6
From what I've heard, Blongo and Bolo Toss, are pretty equal all around. However, the questions to ask are the following:
"Is the paint sprayed on or factory pre-colored?"
"Do they use PVC or plastic for the pipe?"
If one company sprays theirs on and one uses PVC pipe that is pre-colored from the factory, then the later would be the way to go. I'm pretty sure Bolo Toss sprays theirs on (but I could be wrong). However, I'm unsure about Blongo. PVC is better than plastic when tossing golf ball bolas. Plastic will crack.
Wal-mart sells a real cheapo set called Ladder Ball with rubber bolas. The plastic pipe used in that is colored that way from the factory. I say plastic, since the ladder ball at Wal-mart is not PVC, which is recommended over plastic for this game if you use golf balls as bolas. Since this set uses rubber bolas, it'll work.
Post by Steve King (Admin) on Jul 16, 2007 21:36:52 GMT -6
Price and quality go hand in hand. If you want top quality, you generally will pay a higher price, unless you are a skilled craftsman and can make quality by doing it yourself. With that said, here is the breakdown:
The highest quality sets on the market are definitely soley sold by Ladder Golf (click here). They make some beautiful wooden games with top quality riveted bolas. These range from the $60's for a single ladder to over $100 for a set. You pay for what you get. This brand is for those who demand top quality and/or want to show off what they've got to their friends and family. These emit pure class!
The next in line will be all of the pre-made PVC versions, which would be classed as medium-quality (but not the highest quality). Retailers range from reputable small companies like AJJ-Cornhole (click here), etc, to the loads of people making them to sell on Ebay here. These PVC sets range from the high $40's to the high $60's for a set. These are perfect for the non-handyman and for the buyer who doesn't put top quality on their list.
Finally, there's the low-quality "do-it-yourself" PVC sets. Anyone who doesn't mind being handy can use the FREE game plans on this site and build a set from around $15-$30 (closer to $30 if you use paints and nicer golf balls for the bolas). Now, if you want to spend 3 hours on a set painting it to your specifications, then factor your personal touch of quality into the time and your cost would be near, if not equal to that of the medium-quality sets above. So, you too could achieve a medium-quality set by doing it yourself, but the monetary costs in all reality would be the same if you bought one. What you do achieve though is the pride in knowing that you built it yourself and made it look just like "you" wanted it to look.
As for the rope, use 3/16" to 3/8" nylon rope. Make it somewhere between 11" to 18" in between the balls. The patented Ladder Golf Game uses 11" long, 1/4" wide nylon rope between their golf balls, which makes it more challenging, but cancels the chances of getting a double ringer. To each their own.